====== Trying to buy a laptop without Windows installed - Part 1, Dell Telephone "Helpline" ====== Recently (October 2011) I have been trying to buy a laptop which I wish to run Linux on, this was an example web conversation with a rep from Dell who clearly knows how to follow a script and not much else. For completeness, our Business salesman commented that Dell *can* supply some business grade laptops without a pre-installed OS. Still not a laptop running Linux "out of the box" but I would probably want to install my own choice of Linux Distro anyway. 11/08/2011 08:29:50PM Session Started with Agent (Harpal_Jubbal) 11/08/2011 08:29:50PM Andrew: "On your website, you have the phrase "Dell recommends windows7". Unfortunately I cannot see any other choices for operating systems if I do not want to use windows7. Please advise." 11/08/2011 08:29:59PM Agent (Harpal_Jubbal): "Welcome to Dell Chat Sales, This is Harpal, your Dell Sales Advisor. My email address is harpal_jubbal@dell.com Hope you're doing well?" 11/08/2011 08:30:03PM Agent (Harpal_Jubbal): "Hello Andrew" 11/08/2011 08:30:30PM Andrew: "On your website, you have the phrase "Dell recommends windows7". UInfortunately I cannot see any other choices for operating systems if I do not want to use windows7. Please advise." 11/08/2011 08:30:43PM Agent (Harpal_Jubbal): "Well the non ship-fast models are customisable, as they don't fall under the readily available category" 11/08/2011 08:31:08PM Agent (Harpal_Jubbal): "Hence they can be customised accordingly with either the Professional/Windows-7 Ultimate version" 11/08/2011 08:31:09PM Andrew: "Thanks, so what OS choice do you offer?" 11/08/2011 08:31:16PM Agent (Harpal_Jubbal): "Our systems are shipped ready to use. Therefore they come pre-loaded with MS Office Starter, OS, Macafee (Anti-Virus) which is a part of the Offer/Bundle.." 11/08/2011 08:32:34PM Andrew: "Thanks, but this seems like only Microsoft operating systems, which is probably only w7 now. I do not want w7, so what are the alternative choices?" 11/08/2011 08:33:03PM Agent (Harpal_Jubbal): "I'm afraid we don't have another option at the moment" 11/08/2011 08:33:22PM Agent (Harpal_Jubbal): "I'll keep a track and will email you, if any other option comes up" 11/08/2011 08:34:27PM Andrew: "Thanks, usually when a recommendation is made, it is because there is a choice, but Dell does not seem to offer a choice, so it can not really offer a recommendation?" 11/08/2011 08:35:52PM Agent (Harpal_Jubbal): "It'll be a pleasure to help you again, If you'd like to contact me in future please come back on chat and take my name." 11/08/2011 08:36:20PM Andrew: "If I do not have a choice about what OS is loaded, and since I don't agree with Microsoft's licence, I should be able to decline the licence and claim a refund for the unused software after I install my choice?" 11/08/2011 08:37:09PM Agent (Harpal_Jubbal): "Our systems are shipped ready to use. Therefore they come pre-loaded with MS Office Starter, OS, Macafee (Anti-Virus) which is a part of the Offer/Bundle.." 11/08/2011 08:37:24PM Agent (Harpal_Jubbal): "Unfortunately there isn't an option for a downgrade" 11/08/2011 08:39:04PM Andrew: "Actually I don't want to downgrade it, I want to upgrade the OS to something better, more secure and easier to use, Linux. As I don't use windows, paying for software I don't ever intend to use is just like a hardware tax payable to Microsoft." 11/08/2011 08:39:59PM Agent (Harpal_Jubbal): "I'm afraid we don't have an option as such at the moment for a different OS" 11/08/2011 08:41:01PM Andrew: "Thanks, I don't think I'll be buying Dell at this time. Please pass on my comments regarding a lost sale to your sales and marketing department." 11/08/2011 08:41:03PM Andrew: "Regards, Andrew" 11/08/2011 08:41:27PM Agent (Harpal_Jubbal): "Sure" 11/08/2011 08:41:40PM Agent (Harpal_Jubbal): "I really wish we could've done something" 11/08/2011 08:41:45PM Agent (Harpal_Jubbal): "we honour your decision" 11/08/2011 08:41:51PM Agent (Harpal_Jubbal): "Thank you for contacting Dell Sales Chat and allowing me the opportunity to assist you. Have a wonderful Day ahead." 11/08/2011 08:42:21PM Session Ended